MIAT or NILAI ?

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Re: MIAT or NILAI ?

Postby Kennethchaw » Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:39 pm

For what i know , after got the certificate of completion of EASA , i need to work for 5 years then can get the licence , so that means the 5 years including the risiko that i dont get hired , isnt it ?
So, DCA will be better in this right ? DCA can convert into EASA licence ?
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Re: MIAT or NILAI ?

Postby torx » Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:46 pm

Yes in that sense you are correct! IF you can secure a place in a EASA's Part 145 company, that will only be 2 years or so... honestly not many to choose from in Malaysia! :^^:
DCA better in the sense that you're looking for an employment in Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, Hong Kong, Australia, New Zealand and the Middle East where our DCA license is recognized and well accepted (with certain terms and conditions)... To really make your self marketable if you have BOTH DCA and EASA license! :><.:
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Re: MIAT or NILAI ?

Postby Kennethchaw » Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:54 pm

therefore it is better to have DCA or EASA first ? I just worry the 5 years before get EASA licence, wondering if don get employment meaning will be taking longer time for the lincence right ?

Well, if getting a degree of aeronautical with LWTR then go for DCA , is it the same also ? besides those aviation colleges ,Any Gov Uni offering this ?
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Re: MIAT or NILAI ?

Postby torx » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:55 pm

You have to decide whats best for you as it depends what path you want to take.
Bear in mind in order for you to work overseas, you must have experience in TYPE. No employer in their right mind would want to employ anyone especially the ones that just passed out with plain license without any type ratings and experience. we're talking at least 5 years or more here. The uncertainty is that EASA is not oblige to issue you a license as your are not an EU subject, having 5 years experience in a non-approved and recognized MRO would be a cause for rejection, which is highly likely!
A degree in aero has got nothing to do with LWTR! They're not even the same or complementing each other for crying out loud! If you want to take license, just take the license, do not mix with this diploma or that degree in aviation/aeronautical and other similar craps that the academic industry is offering..They know nuts. :><.:
Taking the license is not an alternative to taking a diploma or degree. This is a specialized professional training and qualifications and should be done as it is intended.
Have a clear mind of the requirements of the system (you don't) then ask yourself if this is what you want to do for a very long time for the rest of your life... :^^:
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Re: MIAT or NILAI ?

Postby Kennethchaw » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:29 pm

torx wrote:You have to decide whats best for you as it depends what path you want to take.
Bear in mind in order for you to work overseas, you must have experience in TYPE. No employer in their right mind would want to employ anyone especially the ones that just passed out with plain license without any type ratings and experience.Well, experience in aircraft industry also needed for DCA license or not ? Then,having the fresh license should go where to work if no one going to employ ? ICAO same as DCA also right ?
we're talking at least 5 years or more here. The uncertainty is that EASA is not oblige to issue you a license as your are not an EU subject, having 5 years experience in a non-approved and recognized MRO would be a cause for rejection, which is highly likely!
A degree in aero has got nothing to do with LWTR! This one i read from the brochure of UTHM , it stated a degree+LWTR , so I'm not sure is that good to study there? I look for this one cause isn't u need to have LWTR from DCA to become a LAME right ? Next, if want apply for dilog , only can apply once i got SPM result ? What is the cost studying there actually ?
They're not even the same or complementing each other for crying out loud! If you want to take license, just take the license, do not mix with this diploma or that degree in aviation/aeronautical and other similar craps that the academic industry is offering..They know nuts. :><.:
Taking the license is not an alternative to taking a diploma or degree. This is a specialized professional training and qualifications and should be done as it is intended.
Have a clear mind of the requirements of the system (you don't) then ask yourself if this is what you want to do for a very long time for the rest of your life... :^^:
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Re: MIAT or NILAI ?

Postby torx » Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:13 pm

I see that you do not have a clear idea about LWTR/DCA Part-66 AML categories and requirements. This has been discussed at length elsewhere and some other forum and I suggest you so some search/research on this subject matter. I do not want to repeat this for the nth. time.. :><:
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Re: MIAT or NILAI ?

Postby papynchase » Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:42 pm

Hi, Kenneth. This is an oft-repeated question/topic. But let me simplify it to its simplest: MIAT is an approved training organization (ATO). Nilai UC is not. To get your licence after graduating (I see no point in graduating actually...) from NUC, you will need 5 years of experience on a live aircraft. When you're done at MIAT, it will be only a few years. That's all there is to it.
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Re: MIAT or NILAI ?

Postby orang tua » Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:20 pm

From the legal aspect, (an ATO - Approved Training Organisation by the Authority; in this case DCA), ATO graduates have certain privileges, one of them - you only need to acquire 2 years of live aircraft working experience then you can "convert" your Certificate of Completion to a License. If you are NOT a graduate from an ATO; you need 5 years live aircraft working experience.
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