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Twin engine course

Postby beast » Sun Aug 29, 2010 2:32 am

I'm going to start my twin engine/instrument rating course next week with piper seneca 3, any tips or advise for a beginner like me?
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Re: Twin engine course

Postby m732 » Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:06 am

beast wrote:I'm going to start my twin engine/instrument rating course next week with piper seneca 3, any tips or advise for a beginner like me?


Since you probably would have had at least 150+hrs of flying i don't think you should regard yourself as a beginner.

Read up basic theory of flight stuff on asymmetric flying, propeller torque effect, lateral stability and the rest based on inputs from your fellow seniors at FA.

Instrument rating part will basically extend what you have been doing during the single engine (IF) sorties. With added items on how to fly SID and STARS, airways flying, fine tuning the previously learned instrument approaches like VOR/DME, ILS and NDB.

Towards the end you will also be trained on flying instrument approaches with an engine inoperative since its one of the requirement for your IRT to carry out at either one precision/non-precision approach with an engine out.

Can't say much about the Seneca3 since I was trained on a different type of twin eng a/c.

Wish you all the best and enjoy your twin engine flying.
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Re: Twin engine course

Postby beast » Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:22 pm

thank you m732 for your tips. :) Anyway i heard that airlines pilots association in MY thinks that fresh graduates from local FAs are not ready for airlines. Is it true? What's your opinion?
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Re: Twin engine course

Postby hersheys » Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:47 pm

In order for a pilot to be instrument rated, pilot has to get fly twin and get instrument endorsed. To me, it is unproductive.

Flying twin engine and while doing instrument, really requires lots of work! It is tough!

Getting proficiency in instrument flying on SE and then twin airplane, life can be so much easier.


-- Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:53 pm --

m732 wrote:fine tuning the previously learned instrument approaches like VOR/DME, ILS and NDB.

In Malaysia, people still fly NDB approach?

m732 wrote:Towards the end you will also be trained on flying instrument approaches with an engine inoperative since its one of the requirement for your IRT to carry out at either one precision/non-precision approach with an engine out.

ILS with one engine can be fun.

m732 wrote:Can't say much about the Seneca3 since I was trained on a different type of twin eng a/c.

I flew Beechcraft and Seneca I.
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Re: Twin engine course

Postby beast » Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:57 am

hi hersheys how's GGIFA?? I heard they are too ambitious until no money left is it true?
hersheys wrote:In Malaysia, people still fly NDB approach?

If i'm not mistaken starting from next year all NDBs will be decommission. Check MY AIC.
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Re: Twin engine course

Postby Mr_Aviator » Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:15 pm

Last Time. my Instructor Showed me how to make NDB Approach..
Eventhough it is not in the syllabus...
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Re: Twin engine course

Postby m732 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:30 pm

I remember doing an NDB approach during my twin engine phase in the simulator. On the real twin, only did NDB tracking.

Yes, you guys are right, its going to be decommissioned soon.
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Re: Twin engine course

Postby hersheys » Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:03 pm

beast wrote:hi hersheys how's GGIFA?? I heard they are too ambitious until no money left is it true?

How did you know that?

beast wrote:If i'm not mistaken starting from next year all NDBs will be decommission. Check MY AIC.

I am sure DCA M'sia will not decommission NDBs for the next 5-10years. It cost money to remove. DCA M'sia knows how to talk cock only, they may not do it.

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Mr_Aviator wrote:Last Time. my Instructor Showed me how to make NDB Approach..
Eventhough it is not in the syllabus...

There are not many people can fly NDB approach, including me.
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Re: Twin engine course

Postby afifazhanee » Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:40 pm

beast wrote:thank you m732 for your tips. :) Anyway i heard that airlines pilots association in MY thinks that fresh graduates from local FAs are not ready for airlines. Is it true? What's your opinion?


Not necessary, my tips, just brush up on your instrument approaches and procedures, the rest of it will come with experience and learnings along the phase. Make sure you understand everything about instrument flying, like holding pattern and entries, speeds, approaches, missed approach, radial tracking, course tracking, blablabla.. Instrument flying is fun :cool:
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